During the latter months of the big stage days of Zig Ziglar's Positive Living Seminars, I was a speaker, motivator and storyteller, while I worked the trenches of our industry. I soon bought and ran my own search and placement firm, and learned quickly the headaches of turnover and loss.
 In the downward turn of the eighties, I took my new Masters and what I knew to the open market. Though an often invited speaker for the NAPC (NAPS), seminars are the least effective way for training! Many seminar leaders in the industry have turned to in house training.